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The Other Side of Poker Rake

Monday, 07 March 2011 13:05

RakeThe Other Side of Rake - NO LIMIT

We will be taking a more in depth look at how different rake structures break down. One of the most overlooked aspects of rake, is the frequency of collection. There is so much concentration on the max rake, which is only hit every 30 hands or more, but we will look at how rake structure can make a difference in every hand.

The two most common are “$0.05 rake collected per $1 in the pot”, or “$0.01 raked per $0.20 in the pot.” The higher the amount that has to be in the pot to collect rake, the better for the players because the increments are not hit as frequently. The charts above show, that most sites take rake more often at the smaller limits. This example illustrates the differences.  (check out the Fixed Limit Tables)

Example:

A pot is up to $55.75 Sites using the rake collection method of “5c per $1 in the Pot” would rake $2.75 from this hand. However at a site that collects “1c per 20c in the Pot” would rake $2.79 from this hand. While the amount is negligible for a single hand, over tens or hundreds of thousands of hands, one can see the amount of extra rake that is paid. The difference between these two methods is “1c per 20c in Pot” collects in five times as many increments.

US-friendly

NL Stakes

Rake Charge

# of Players

Max Rake

Full Tilt Poker

25c/50c & up

5c per $1 in Pot

2

50c




3

$1




4

$2




5 - 9

$3

Cake Network

25c/50c - $10/20

5c per $1 in Pot

2

50c




3

$1




4

$2




5 - 9

$3

PokerStars

25c/50c - $50/100

5c per $1 in Pot

2

50c




3

$1




4 – 5

$2




6 - 10

$3

Yatahay

All NL & PL cash

5c per $1 in Pot

2

50c

True Poker & Doyle's Room


3

$1




4 – 5

$2




6 - 10

$3

Cereus

25c/50c - $2/4

5c per $1 in Pot

2

75c

Absolute Poker & Ultimate Bet


3 – 4

$2




5 or more

$3


$3/6 - $15/30

5c per $1 in Pot

2

$1




3 – 4

$2




5 or more

$3


25c/50c - $2/4 HU

5c per $1 in Pot

HU

50c


$3/6 - $15/30 HU


HU

75c

Merge

All NL & PL

1c per 20c in Pot

HU

50c

Carbon Poker & RPM Poker


2 – 3

$1




4 – 5

$2




6 - 10

$3

Everleaf

5c/10c, 10c/20c,
$1/2 - $5/10

1c per 20c in Pot

2

$1

Poker4Ever & Minted Poker


3 – 4

$2




5 - 10

$3


25c/50c – 50c/$1

1c per 20c in Pot

2

$1




3 – 10

3

US-friendly

NL Stakes

Rake Charge

# of Players

Max Rake

Full Tilt Poker

10c/25c

1c per 20c in Pot

2

50c




3

$1




4

$2




5 - 9

$3

Cake Network

10c/20c

1c per 20c in Pot

2

50c




3

$1




4

$2




5 - 9

$3

PokerStars

1c/2c – 20c/25c

1c per 20c in Pot

2

50c




3 - 4

$1




5 - 10

$2

Cereus

1c/2c - 5c/10c

1c per 20c in Pot

2

75c

Absolute Poker & Ultimate Bet


3 – 4

$2




5 or more

$3


10c/25c

3c per 60c in Pot

2

75c




3 – 4

$2




5 or more

$3


5c/10c HU

1c per 20c in Pot

HU

50c


10c/25c HU

3c per 60c in Pot

HU

50c


As mentioned above, max rake is usually the focus of rake comparisons. However only a fraction of hands will approach the max. When the Max Rake per Hand is $3, then a pot has to reach at least $60 to be raked $3 Also take notice that some sites charge a lower cap on actual 1-on-1 Heads Up tables, compared to playing heads-up on a 6max or Full Ring table.

US-friendly Poker Sites offering Euro currency tables

Euros € tables

NL Stakes 

Rake Charge 

# of Players 

Max Rake 

PokerStars

Up to €0.10/€0.25

€0.01 per €0.20 in Pot

2

€0.50




3 - 4

€1




5 - 10

€2


€0.25/€.50 & up

€0.05 per €1 in Pot

2

€0.50




3 – 4

€1




5 - 10

€2

Everleaf

All Euro € tables

€0.01 per €0.20 in Pot

2 - 10

€5

Poker4Ever & Minted Poker




 

As of a few months ago both PokerStars and Everleaf Gaming Network have begun also offering cash games in Euros.  Below are the rake structures for both, for reference purposes.  It is unfair to compare these structures with the others for many reasons.  Probably most important for a serious player to recognize, is that the players likely to play on these tables, are likely to be a far lower skill level than normally encountered.  Due to this, it is highly possible for strong players, that the higher winrate can offset the higher rake.  These players are more commonly casual players, who have little knowledge of rake.

The Other Side of Rake - Fixed Limit

US-friendly Stakes Rake Charge # of Players Max Rake
Full Tilt 5c/10c – 10c/20c 1c per 20c in Pot 2 50c
3 $1
4 $2
5 - 9 $3
Cake Network 2c/4c – 5c/10c 1c per 15c in Pot 2 50c
3 $1
4 $2
5 - 9 $3
10c/20c 1c per 20c in Pot 2 50c
3 $1
4 $2
5 - 9 $3
Yatahay 10c/20c 2c per 40c in Pot 2 – 3 4c
4 – 5 10c
6 – 10 20c
PokerStars 2c/4c 1c per 20c in Pot 2 - 10 4c
4c/8c 2 - 10 8c
5c/10c 2 - 10 10c
10c/20 2 - 10 20c
Cereus 1c/2c 1c per 20c in Pot 2 - 9 75c
5c/10c HU N/A
2 - 9 N/A
Merge 2c/4c - $1/$2 1c per 20c in Pot HU 50c
2 - 10 $1
$2/$4 - $50/$100 HU 50c
2 – 3 $1
4 – 5 $2
6 - 10 $3

 



 

US-friendly Stakes Rake Charge # of Players Max Rake
Full Tilt 25c/50c – 50c/$1 5c per $1 in Pot 2 25c
3 - 9 50c
Cake Network 25c/50c – 50c/$1 5c per $1 in Pot 2 50c
3 - 9 $1
Yatahay 25c/50c - 50c/$1 10c per $2 in Pot 2 – 3 20c
4 – 5 50c
6 – 10 $1
PokerStars 25c/50c 5c per $1 in Pot 2 or more 40c
50c/$1 2 or more 50c
Cereus 10c/20c 5c per $1 in Pot HU or 2 or more 25c
25c/50c HU 50c
2 75c
3 - 9 $1
50c/$1 HU 50c
2 75c
3 - 9 $1

 




 

US-friendly Stakes Rake Charge # of Players Max Rake
Full Tilt $1/$2 25c per $5 in Pot 2 50c
3 - 9 $1
Cake Network $1/$2 25c per $5 in Pot 2 50c
3 - 9 $1
PokerStars $1/$2 25c per $5 in Pot 2 or more $1
Yatahay $1/$2 25c per $5 in Pot 2 – 3 25c
4 - 10 $1
$2/$4 25c per $5 in Pot 2 50c
3 $1
4 – 5 $1.50
6 – 10 $3
Cereus $1/$2 25c per $5 in Pot HU N/A
2 75c
3 - 9 $2
$2/$4 HU 50c
2 75c
3 – 4 $2
5 - 9 $3

 



 

US-friendly Stakes Rake Charge # of Players Max Rake
Full Tilt $2/$4 & up 50c per $10 in Pot 2 50c
3 $1
$1 per $20 in Pot 4 $2
5 - 9 $3
Cake Network $2/$4 - $50/$100 50c per $10 in Pot 2 50c
3 $1
$1 per $20 in Pot 4 $2
5 - 9 $3
Yatahay $3/$6 25c per $10 in Pot 2 50c
50c per $10 in Pot 3 $1
4 – 5 $1.50
6 – 10 $3
$4/$8 25c per $10 in Pot 2 50c
50c per $10 in Pot 3 $1
4 – 5 $2
6 – 10 $3
$5/$10 50c per $20 in Pot 2 50c
$1 per $20 in Pot 3 $1
4 - 5 $2
6 - 10 $3
$10/$20 50c per $40 in Pot 2 50c
$1 per $20 in Pot 3 $1
4 - 5 $2
6 - 10 $3
$15/$30 50c per $40 in Pot 2 50c
$1 per $40 in Pot 3 $1
4 – 5 $2
6 – 10 $3
PokerStars $2/$4 - $100/$200 50c per $20 in Pot 2 - 3 $1
$1 per $20 in Pot 4 – 5 $2
6 - 10 $3
Cereus $3/$6 50c per $10 in Pot HU 50c
2 $1
3 - 4 $2
5 - 9 $3
$5/$10 - $10/$20 50c per $20 in Pot HU 50c
2 $1
$1 per $20 in Pot 3 - 4 $2
5 - 9 $3
$15/$30 - $50/100 $1 per $20 in Pot HU 75c
2 $1
3 $2
4 – 9 $3

 



 

Non-US Stakes Rake Charge # of Players Max Rake
OnGame Up to 25c/50c 5c per $1 in Pot 2 or more 50c
  50c/$1 - $2/$4   2 $1
      3 – 4 $2
      5 - 9 $3
  $2/$4 & up 25c per $5 in Pot 2 $1
      3 – 4 $2
      5 – 9 $3
Boss/International 0.10/0.20 0.01 per 0.2 in Pot 2 or more 1.50
(Any currency) 0.25/0.50 0.05 per 1 in Pot 2 or more 1.50
  0.50/1 – 1/2 0.25 per 5 in Pot 2 or more 1.50
  2/4 – 10/20   2 or more 3.00
  15/30 – 50/100 0.50 when pot reaches 30, 40, 50, 70, 85, 100   3.00
Entraction All 0.01 per 0.2 in Pot 2 0.75
      3 2.00
      4 - 10 3.00
888Pacific 2c/4c – 12c/25c 1c per 20c in Pot 2 or more 50c
  25c/50c - $1/$2   2 or more $1
  $2/$4 - $10/$20   2 – 3 $1
      4 – 5 $2
      6 – 10 $3
  $15/$30 - $30/$60 1c per 40c in Pot 2 – 3 $1
  $50/$100 $1 per $100 in Pot 2 – 3 $2
      4 – 10 $5
  12c/25c – 50c/$1 1c per 20c in Pot HU 50c
  $1/$2 - $30/$60 1c per 20c in Pot HU $1

 

We only included the poker sites and networks that have Fixed limit games actively running. As you can see from the charts above, the rake structures and rake caps for Fixed Limit games differ far more widely than No Limit Holdem. Due to this, it is harder to make direct comparisons. We advise that players find their stakes and compare both rake structure and cap at the different sites.
 
For Example, we will look at $2/$4 FL 6max games across the US sites. All have a Max Cap of $3 Full Tilt, Cake, PokerStars have $1 per $20 in Pot rake collection.
Yatahay and Cereus have 25c per $5 in Pot rake collection Merge has 1c per 20c in Pot rake collection So for a pot that is up to $55.75, the “$1 per $20 in Pot” sites would only rake $2.00 from this hand. However the sites with the “25c per $5 in Pot” structure would rake $2.75 from this hand. While Merge would collect $2.79 from this hand.